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tptacek 8 hours ago [-]
This is the best thing Jane Wickline has done. I worried about whether she was on the bubble because she's so situational (I think that's a good thing), but clearly she's got staying power.
The_Blade 8 hours ago [-]
i just learned her partner is named Henry Hornbuckle now this is power couple we deserve but not the one we need right now
Aboutplants 7 hours ago [-]
Her mother also just happens to be Lorne Michaels long term assistant
thunky 5 hours ago [-]
And her father worked for Letterman.
sippingabonedry 8 hours ago [-]
Is this supposed to be funny?
Hard to comprehend how we've gone from Norm MacDonald being so relentlessly bold he was fired, to this sterility, in 30 years.
MattyRad 1 hours ago [-]
I smirked at the opening joke. But yeah, in true SNL fashion, it's toothless. In this case, they repeated the same joke, with a bunch of nonsequiters. Pretty typical.
SNL has never been funny, at least not in my adulthood. For instance, I got chummed by YouTube, and hooked into watching Tiny Horse, which was embarrassing for both the actors and viewers alike. The the skits play like pre-recorded improv.
swed420 7 hours ago [-]
> Hard to comprehend how we've gone from Norm MacDonald being so relentlessly bold he was fired, to this sterility, in 30 years.
Is it, though?
Wouldn't it be more strange if the former didn't eventually lead to the latter?
nunez 3 hours ago [-]
Listen to a Dario interview. I think it's pretty on the mark
swed420 2 hours ago [-]
I didn't watch the OP. I just know most actually controversial content almost never makes it to broadcast these days.
Hating on AI or its CEO doesn't seem very risky or controversial (for now [0])
I urge you to urge me to stop is critical Super Dario
Chance-Device 7 hours ago [-]
It’s not funny. It could be, Dario is idiosyncratic enough they could have done a really good send up of him, this just wasn’t it.
MBCook 7 hours ago [-]
Yeah it wasn’t great. Other parts of this week’s Weekend Update were better like the Meta AI character having the same dead eyes as Zuck or Tucker Carlson discussing movies. That wasn’t great but had some fun in pure ridiculousness.
Either way the fact this is even a sketch says a lot about where we are. They clearly think enough people know about this discussion, and him specifically, to be able to pull this off. If you made an SNL sketch about other people HN talks about the audience would just be totally confused and lost.
He has earned the very dubious honor of joining Elizabeth Holmes and Zuckerberg as “weirdo tech people to make fun of”.
troupo 7 hours ago [-]
To be honest I struggle to understand why SNL endures. It has never been funny with very very few exceptions.
bitwize 8 hours ago [-]
When Dario talks to himself sotto voce and then answers himself in a raspy voice, Gollum-like, made me lose it. I once encountered a severely cognitively deficient individual on the bus who calmed himself in the exact same fashion. It's almost a perfectly succinct psychological snapshot of the character they're trying to create.
selimthegrim 5 hours ago [-]
Pray tell which NORTA bus line this was so I can add it to my list of lines to avoid, like the 8 where I had to duck as a AK 47 wielding car crossed in front of us perpendicularly firing at another one in front
nullc 7 hours ago [-]
They missed an opportunity to talk about 'my precious AI' or have the gollum-like voice talk in claudeisms ('lever', 'honest take', 'load bearing'). I wasn't entirely clear on the skits working theory, is this a crazy guy that thinks he has the one ring but really has a cereal box toy?
MBCook 7 hours ago [-]
“My precious” would have been too on the nose for the Gollum part for me.
Claudisms could be fun but probably too obscure for the target audience.
uncivilized 6 hours ago [-]
I imagine 99% of viewers have never seen Dario speak either.
MBCook 6 hours ago [-]
I haven’t myself. I don’t know his name. So in many ways, I’m a more normal person. I’m aware they keep claiming that AI will kill everyone, but that’s about as much as I know. I didn’t even know if the CEO was claiming it or just underlings.
It wasn’t until I saw comments here that I found out they weren’t making up the gollum thing and he apparently talks to himself a bit like that.
jihadjihad 7 hours ago [-]
I know it’s a little OT, but I keep seeing the same misquotation all over the place. Right at the beginning Michael Che refers to the claim that “there’s a 10% chance that AI could wipe out humanity within 10 years.”
But that isn’t what the often-misquoted current and former Anthropic employees said. They said it was a 10% chance of it happening by the end of the current decade [0], i.e. by 2030, not 2036.
But what does it matter? It’s not like that number is based on any science. It’s literally p (doom | vibes).
someothherguyy 7 hours ago [-]
what does the scientific literature say then?
pj_mukh 7 hours ago [-]
Unfortunately, this question was never asked by any news organization or of Coxon as he ran to the press. People who would usually ask to "see the work" never did because it comfortably confirmed their biases.
Specifically, I have no idea what the research says, or even if it exists, I wish we had a system to figure that out instead of exciting Twitter "whistleblower" threads.
nmca 7 hours ago [-]
You are wrong. The confusion arises because Coxon said “within the decade” with no associated probability and Hubinger said “within the next decade” at 10%.
lostmsu 7 hours ago [-]
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hurfdurf 6 hours ago [-]
Was expecting it to be US-only, but the list of blocked countries is odd.
Andorra, Australia, Belgium, Canada, Germany, Algeria, France, French Guiana, Guadeloupe, Comoros (the), Luxembourg, Morocco, Monaco, Martinique, New Caledonia, French Polynesia, Saint Pierre and Miquelon, Réunion, Seychelles, Tunisia, Wallis and Futuna, Mayotte
_diyar 5 hours ago [-]
I assume NBC has distribution deals with a handful of channels who air SNL in their respective countries.
And most of the countries on this list probably fall under some French channel’s domain since they are dependencies (edit: or former colonies).
TheAceOfHearts 8 hours ago [-]
I generally don't think SNL is very funny but I think it's quite socially healthy that they make fun of the political and economic elites. I wonder if we mapped out their targets if there would be any glaring omissions that would stand out.
This video didn't make me laugh but I appreciate the flexing of the first amendment. They should continue with other AI-related figures.
rudedogg 8 hours ago [-]
Agreed. I wish they would have thrown in a "guardrails to stop me, but mostly my competitors" so the public would think about that possibility more.
charcircuit 8 hours ago [-]
I disagree there are so many other ways to be funny than making fun of someone's stuttering. We shouldn't be bullying people delivering trillions of dollars of value to society.
pluto_modadic 7 hours ago [-]
the idea of a caricature is to exaggerate the features someone is most insecure about. That's what Spitting Image is.
charcircuit 7 hours ago [-]
That is literally bullying. especially when those insecurities are something that can not be fixed. You can't excuse bullying because "it's for humor." It's cruel.
jakubmazanec 7 hours ago [-]
Search "punching down vs punching up in comedy" and you'll understand why it's not bullying.
charcircuit 6 hours ago [-]
I still don't get it. Especially with shows with large distribution merely being a public figure pails in comparison. Dario has no ability to defend himself here. Any post he makes on social media is unable to reach the same people. The idea that public figures can be bullied and harassed just serves bullies' interest in defining a way to morally continue their antics of hurting others.
cannonpalms 7 hours ago [-]
Bullying implies a power imbalance that does not exist here
charcircuit 6 hours ago [-]
If you can't see it as jocks bullying the nerds, then see it as just harassment. You are getting caught up on the exact words and not that it makes whoever a jerk to put people down.
queenkjuul 7 hours ago [-]
I can excuse bullying powerful people in all cases, especially when it's funny
owebmaster 7 hours ago [-]
You can't bully someone so much more powerful. Bullying is saying AI will replace devs, 10% chance of everybody dying, etc.
johnnyanmac 7 hours ago [-]
I think Dario will be fine. I don't have much sympathy.
And yes, it is indeed because he's a billionaire actively shaping a worse society. Not because it's okay to make fun of impediments when it's on rich people.
mcv 3 hours ago [-]
> We shouldn't be bullying people delivering trillions of dollars of value to society.
Sure, but what about the people who consume trillions of dollars of value?
verdverm 9 hours ago [-]
I for one am glad to see society moving from deference to skepticism of these valley elite
DonHopkins 8 hours ago [-]
It's all just a big scam to scare the public into buying robot insurance.
In reality, it is a big scam to trick the public into thinking AI is dangerous and needs to be regulated. Then the government can limit it so only the preferred companies can continue to develop it.
It's because both frontier companies are worried about plateauing and there's no barrier to competition. They both have upcoming IPOs, too.
pvab3 7 hours ago [-]
To be fair, I think most of this is sci-fi brain rot, but the fact that 2 trillion-dollar companies supposedly have RSI as their #1 priority by a long shot is concerning to me
verdverm 7 hours ago [-]
The I in RSI... Improvement or Immolation... tbd...
Bluecobra 8 hours ago [-]
An insurance policy with a robot plan? Certainly, I’m too old!
layer8 8 hours ago [-]
Does it apply when robo-advisors make bad investments?
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verdverm 8 hours ago [-]
lol, that's good
Lawfare Media recently, actually proposed a mutualize insurance system for Ai
I don't think it such a bad idea that the Big Ai labs put money into a fund for their negligence, but that should not relieve them of criminal liabilities
my consternation is that they likely have sufficient money to avoid consequences, like the sacks and the opioid epidemic, two-tier justice system at it's finest...
monkaiju 7 hours ago [-]
Pretty funny tbh, it is amazing these clowns have so much influence over such large investments...
gib444 7 hours ago [-]
Her character's voice at times reminds me of that Rick and Morty court room sketch. NSFW. Pretty hilarious:
Hey how about we go back to LLM/AI being a simple knowledge request service? You have a model trained on data, you request a text or media response from that knowledge model.
No agents. And if someone loops the response into an agent, well, then they are legally liable for personally doing that.
dgellow 6 hours ago [-]
I’m looking so much forward to the bubble popping and LLM to be seen as a standard software. They were so much more interesting without the whole absurd 14y-old-first-sci-fi hype around them :(
iAMkenough 9 hours ago [-]
How long until the President of the United States threatens to pull licenses for NBC over their anti-AI viewpoint?
bstsb 8 hours ago [-]
it’s alright, they’re making fun of the “security risk” Anthropic’s CEO, not their darling Altman
Something about the lack of socialization leads tech people into these off-putting ego cults.
While it's not exactly the traditional Randian objectivism you're alluding to, effective altruism adds an extra step: it ostensibly helps people. But, ultimately, it's a distinction without difference: no one escapes the dialectic. Individuals, especially ones cloistered off from the world, are not good arbiters of what will make the world better, or of understanding the higher-order effects of their actions.
nba456_ 8 hours ago [-]
Nothing Ayn Rand about pushing for regulations.
kennywinker 8 hours ago [-]
I think the Ayn Rand thing is more about "the I'm getting mine, f everyone else". However the next 5-10 years shake out, if you're ultra rich today you'll almost definitely be ultra rich in 10 years. Probably ultra-richer. Ayn Rand wasn't just about free markets, she was about individualism over collectivism. Don't worry about how your actions will effect society, worry about what's best for yourself and society will work itself out.
malfist 8 hours ago [-]
Sure, pushing for regulations.
What are they doing now to stop their harms? They're not bound to commit as much harm as possible just because government hasn't told them to knock it off, they can just, not.
The_Blade 8 hours ago [-]
yeah this isn't just moving the goalposts it suddenly started playing Gaelic football but this all seems a lot more Ellsworth Toohey
GaryBluto 8 hours ago [-]
"Ayn Rand" unfortunately seems to have become shorthand on HN for "politics I disagree with". I wonder how long it's going to be until I see somebody here describes the CCP as "Randian".
verdverm 8 hours ago [-]
The EA folks are not happy with the newfound HN criticisms either
If I may... a drEAk meme
(⌐_⌐)ノ Empathy
(•ᴗ•)つ Apathy
kanwisher 8 hours ago [-]
Sorry Dario is the exact opposite of Ayn Rand, he wants the government to manage his industry cause he thinks it will be good for him. More likely all his competitors are more libertarian like Ayn Rand writes about
malfist 8 hours ago [-]
Libertarian freedom for me and my friends, harsh regulatory capture for my enemies
kennywinker 8 hours ago [-]
Notoriously, Ayn Rand only believed deregulation. Her books are just the phrase "deregulation is good" over and over and over.
Zigurd 6 hours ago [-]
She styled herself a philosopher not a practitioner. Has she been more of the letter she might've realized that regulatory capture is even more clever than deregulation.
lazyasciiart 7 hours ago [-]
Except the ones joining his call for regulation, obviously.
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slopinthebag 8 hours ago [-]
rand is when bad politics?
bogzz 8 hours ago [-]
It's pretty difficult for me to imagine a turnaround there. Disenshittification would make shareholders irate.
starkd 7 hours ago [-]
How did everyone forget how to be funny? It's like there's a formula that's been patented and hidden away so no one else can find it.
aleksandrm 7 hours ago [-]
Why is this on the front page of HN?
GolfPopper 7 hours ago [-]
For a while, it has felt like anything LLM-related hits the front page.
It's so stupid, like why would they block it on YouTube, but not on instagram. Is the copyright law only applicable in YouTube
Waterluvian 8 hours ago [-]
Copyright might be part of this; I haven’t thought that through. But this restriction is about whose turf they’re trying to push their product on. SNL has to be pushed through a different distributor in different regions.
vdfs 7 hours ago [-]
This a weird SNL thing, the only ones that does geo block on youtube (afaik), their quality is way down so not even worth enabling VPN to watch them
Hard to comprehend how we've gone from Norm MacDonald being so relentlessly bold he was fired, to this sterility, in 30 years.
SNL has never been funny, at least not in my adulthood. For instance, I got chummed by YouTube, and hooked into watching Tiny Horse, which was embarrassing for both the actors and viewers alike. The the skits play like pre-recorded improv.
Is it, though?
Wouldn't it be more strange if the former didn't eventually lead to the latter?
Hating on AI or its CEO doesn't seem very risky or controversial (for now [0])
[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49824686
But it falls off very quickly after that, that it's still on the air today is elder abuse
"Nah, this is slapstick; she was clearly trying for laughs though the Gollum thing was absolutely hilarious."
But no. She ABSOLUTELY CRUSHED. I know Dario is a very smart Dude, but he gives heavy SBF vibes on camera.
Larry Dean as King Charles is ... freaky.
Kind of feels wrong to satirise Diana though. Maybe I'm over-sensitive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5krXOvokj1c is hilarious lol. "Taking the artual parsh" "I'll leave you to it"
Either way the fact this is even a sketch says a lot about where we are. They clearly think enough people know about this discussion, and him specifically, to be able to pull this off. If you made an SNL sketch about other people HN talks about the audience would just be totally confused and lost.
He has earned the very dubious honor of joining Elizabeth Holmes and Zuckerberg as “weirdo tech people to make fun of”.
Claudisms could be fun but probably too obscure for the target audience.
It wasn’t until I saw comments here that I found out they weren’t making up the gollum thing and he apparently talks to himself a bit like that.
But that isn’t what the often-misquoted current and former Anthropic employees said. They said it was a 10% chance of it happening by the end of the current decade [0], i.e. by 2030, not 2036.
0: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/sep/09/anthropic...
Specifically, I have no idea what the research says, or even if it exists, I wish we had a system to figure that out instead of exciting Twitter "whistleblower" threads.
The uploader has not made this video available in your country
Andorra, Australia, Belgium, Canada, Germany, Algeria, France, French Guiana, Guadeloupe, Comoros (the), Luxembourg, Morocco, Monaco, Martinique, New Caledonia, French Polynesia, Saint Pierre and Miquelon, Réunion, Seychelles, Tunisia, Wallis and Futuna, Mayotte
And most of the countries on this list probably fall under some French channel’s domain since they are dependencies (edit: or former colonies).
This video didn't make me laugh but I appreciate the flexing of the first amendment. They should continue with other AI-related figures.
And yes, it is indeed because he's a billionaire actively shaping a worse society. Not because it's okay to make fun of impediments when it's on rich people.
Sure, but what about the people who consume trillions of dollars of value?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4Gh_IcK8UM
It's because both frontier companies are worried about plateauing and there's no barrier to competition. They both have upcoming IPOs, too.
Lawfare Media recently, actually proposed a mutualize insurance system for Ai
https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/bootstrapping-frontier-...
I don't think it such a bad idea that the Big Ai labs put money into a fund for their negligence, but that should not relieve them of criminal liabilities
my consternation is that they likely have sufficient money to avoid consequences, like the sacks and the opioid epidemic, two-tier justice system at it's finest...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vN_PEmeKb0
No agents. And if someone loops the response into an agent, well, then they are legally liable for personally doing that.
While it's not exactly the traditional Randian objectivism you're alluding to, effective altruism adds an extra step: it ostensibly helps people. But, ultimately, it's a distinction without difference: no one escapes the dialectic. Individuals, especially ones cloistered off from the world, are not good arbiters of what will make the world better, or of understanding the higher-order effects of their actions.
What are they doing now to stop their harms? They're not bound to commit as much harm as possible just because government hasn't told them to knock it off, they can just, not.
If I may... a drEAk meme
(⌐_⌐)ノ Empathy
(•ᴗ•)つ Apathy
Copyright is another threat to humanity.